Start of my new site for all raincoat lovers

If you would like to share some pictures and videos please post them here.
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ShinyFinns wrote: March 2nd, 2021, 6:52 am Thanks for comments. I will start selling my material and we will see how it goes.

I have payed my model friend like i have seen appropriate. And i see my first model as my friend, because she was so very nice and the time we had together was very special to both of us. But still a model is a model, who tries to live with modeling and i respect that. There are no free models in Finland for this kind of work. But like i mentioned, i will sell my material of three vids and i will see what happends. If nothing, no harm done. Still one of my dreams fulfilled.
As you've already made the investment it would be silly not to try and sell what you created

There are very few models in the world who work for free but I'm pleased to see you now have a little more respect for the girls who model 'just for the money'

I've always found having respect for your models helps in building a good working relationship

Good luck
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spitfire617 wrote: March 2nd, 2021, 11:03 am
rainwear-experience wrote: March 2nd, 2021, 10:53 am
BobbyValore wrote: March 2nd, 2021, 3:41 am I have to say you were overly optimistic to expect your initial investment in your very first production would come right back to you. Normally it can take months, if not years, to build a good following, reach high in online searches, get a fanbase, learn what sells and what not, find ways to keep costs low, create an unique style of photos and videos, build contacts with other content creators, etc. Investing 600 euros and thinking you can sell for about 600 euros (at least) on only that does not sound very realistic.

From my experience of setting up some small online businesses I would say it is very important to keep costs low at the start. Everyone wants to have quality products/content right from the start requiring expensive hardware, software, the best locations, and beautifully designed sites offering 5 payment methods at least. I think it is more important to start small and see what works while keeping costs as low as possible. For example you could contact some content creators in your country who produce similar content already and offer to take pictures and videos of them, for free, which they can sell in exchange for referring to you as the creator. Maybe it will give you the extra exposure and a new follower or 2.

Next you need to keep in mind that the "rainwear crowd" is quite a difficult crowd. There is so much on offer for free already that something has to be really special for one to want to pull their creditcard out for it. You mention you got a video with a raincoat of which you don't even know the brand of, why would you think someone would specifically look for a video of that brand if even you, the creator, doesn't know the brand? Some people are into specific brands, fabrics, settings (mud), etc, so better start producing with those groups in mind if you want to make a return. It seems vintage rukka raincoats are popular, as well as cagoules, Stutterheim coats, Hunter boots and Nokian boots. Or produce what you want but be very patient to gain enough traction that someone with the same preferences finds you and is willing to give you some money.

Finally keep in mind that we are in the middle of a pandemic. You cannot expect many people to start spending money on online porn from a brand new website. I see traffic down considerable on most websites compared to December, even this forum and other rainwear sites are much less busy. The good news is that your products dont spoil, so it should not matter if you sell a clip now or a year from now.
100% agree with everything said here
Sounds words.
Indeed!!!

Rainwwear Cafe never made a profit and over its life time didn't even cover its costs, however I was happy to subsidise the site when it was fun for me but once it stopped being fun I couldn't see any reason to lose money on something that I didn't enjoy doing
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rainwear-experience wrote: March 2nd, 2021, 11:15 am
spitfire617 wrote: March 2nd, 2021, 11:03 am
rainwear-experience wrote: March 2nd, 2021, 10:53 am

100% agree with everything said here
Sounds words.
Indeed!!!

Rainwwear Cafe never made a profit and over its life time didn't even cover its costs, however I was happy to subsidise the site when it was fun for me but once it stopped being fun I couldn't see any reason to lose money on something that I didn't enjoy doing
I have never had any inclination to set up or run a website.
I suppose I could but can't be bothered!
My bad!
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spitfire617 wrote: March 2nd, 2021, 11:17 am
I have never had any inclination to set up or run a website.
I suppose I could but can't be bothered!
My bad!
Nothing bad about it, you should always do what makes you happy!

You and Colleen seem content in sharing some great images with us which dont always attract the appreciation they deserve, but that's a different story
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we do not take photos/videos for appreciation! It helps to sharpen our skills with the cameras and video editing!
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ShinyFinns wrote: March 2nd, 2021, 6:52 am But like i mentioned, i will sell my material of three vids and i will see what happends. If nothing, no harm done. Still one of my dreams fulfilled.
Thats the spirit, you already gained some valuable experience with online marketing, got a dream fulfilled, and possibly it will make a small return also. I do hope you have planned a bit further ahead to give your endeavour a serious chance: one shoot and video day and if no success then its over seems a bit too quick to give up.
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I will give up if it doesnt pay out at all. But i have two new models prepared to film with me, so all depends on the interest i get from the first three vids. I do not expect it to give me back what i have invested, but i hope that i will get something back to be able to continue. My investments are not huge, so i am not worried quitting if it does not work out.
But i still remember being a member of rainwear cafe. That content really opened my eyes to my fetish. And that women from southern africa was just amazingly sexy too. I try to create here something new to the market and we will see how i can create new value to the market.
I will inform when my material is seen on my site and clipspool.com.
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My first vid is now for sale at www.raincoatdreams.com.
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It was nice to start, but as discussed here my first clip is not selling. My first vid has been for sale about 36 hours and no purchaises from my site. So now i start selling my collection of raincoats and other clothing. Thanks for all people who shared their worries about this project and the financal side of it. But this market of selling downloadable content does not work. I do not know why, but that is the case now.

Not with good feelings, but nice try anyway.
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I understand your disappointment but you haven't really given it much chance to work 36 hours is nothing especially in times when money is in short supply for a lot of people

After two weeks of Rainwear Cafe I had 6 subscribers and OK it never managed to do better than break even some of the time but it did grow from there

After less than 2 days you've decided that selling downloadable content doesn't work, you haven't really given it a chance, other people have made it work but probably struggled to begin with, give it time before you make any hasty decisions

Good luck
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